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Friday, 22 February 2013

Tom Webb comments on Fish Fight Series 3 - shame this guy wasn't an advisor to HFW!

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Tom Webb comments on Fish Fight Series 3 - shame this guy wasn't an advisor to HFW!


What with Brian Cox spending an hour explaining the importance of body size in ecological systems, and then prime time marine conservation courtesy of Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall’s ongoing Fishfight, I feel that my research interests have been rather well covered by TV of late. But whereas I have nothing but praise so far for Cox’s Wonders of Life, I find myself somewhat more ambivalent in my views of Fishfight.

On the one hand, it is fantastic to see the issue of marine conservation gain such prominence. Hugh F-W is an excellent and extremely savvy campaigner, and his energy and drive to reduce the wasteful practice of discards (subject of the first Fishfight series) has had a real, positive impact at the EU level. Of course, we need to make sure that the fish now landed instead of discarded at sea actually make it to market, rather than landfill – but that’s not to take away from what Fishfight achieved. And the focus of this second series, on marine protected areas, is also a really important issue – few would argue with the central tenet that we should take better care of the marine environment, and that protecting certain areas should be a part of this. Neither am I entirely averse to using shock tactics to elicit an emotional response in the audience – indeed, I attempt just this in my marine conservation lectures here in Sheffield, where I channel Jeremy Jackson in documenting the often calamitous history of human impacts on the ocean.

On the other hand, however – and notwithstanding the considered input of scientists whom I know, like and respect such as Alex Rodgers and Callum Roberts– we need to recognise that Fishfight is a campaign, and campaigning TV by its very nature is not especially fussed about issues of balance. This is the point made by SeaFish in their response to the series. SeaFish were derided on Twitter last night by George Monbiot as an industry quango whose interest is "minimum of conservation and maximum of exploitation", but actually they are a respected body who take science pretty seriously - although as an industry body of course they consider the social and economic as well as the ecological consequences of marine environmental policy. They have been making the point that MPAs in the UK ought to be established based only on sound scientific criteria – the reason rather few have so far been agreed is that often we lack these data.

Now, I used to be of a similar view to the Fishfight gang – that the priority ought to be just establishing  MPAs, on the assumption that even if they were suboptimally positioned, any protection of any area would be better than none. Then I started talking to people who study these things and was politely told that, actually, a poorly designed MPA can actually do more harm than good. So, my view now is that MPAs need to be carefully designed, set up with specific and explicit goals, and not simply placed willy-nilly.

More generally, and as always, the truth will usually lie somewhere between environmental campaigners and industry groups. Some scientists have been quite vocal regarding the oversimplification of complex issues that is inevitable in campaigning TV. Marine conservation biologist Mike Kaiser, for example, has been quite active on Twitter putting across a fisheries science view, and I agree with this blog post by Jess Woo, that framing this campaign in terms of a ‘fight’ is unfortunate – “the last thing marine conservation (and particularly fisheries management) needs is a ruckus”.

All of which has got me thinking: what does marine conservation need? Well, some kind of clear vision would be useful, regarding how we balance the needs of conservation with feeding 9 billion people. There have been studies looking at this from a fisheries perspective, but it struck me that there are real parallels here with the land sharing vs. land sparing debate in terrestrial conservation. Should we concentrate conservation effort into the preservation of wild areas, and exploit other areas for food production as intensively as we can? Or should we aim for a more balanced approach, seeking a way to allow human activities and nature to coexist? In farming terms, this is the difference between a mosaic of industrial farms interspersed with nature reserves, and a more extensive system of wildlife-friendly farms.

The obvious upshot of this terrestrial debate is that if you want a large network of fully protected nature reserves, you have to balance that with farming the fuck out of what’s left. Translating this to a marine context, a network of no-take MPAs requires fishing the fuck out of unprotected areas. There is no real incentive for more responsible fishing outside the MPAs: the focus should just be on productivity. So the depressing images of dredged and trawled habitats that Fishfight uses to tug the heartstrings would not disappear if MPAs were widely established. In this case, you’re pinning an awful lot on not only the (widely supported) in situ success of MPAs, but also in their (often positive, but more variable) spillover effects. Responsible fishing, by contrast, requires more extensive areas to be exploited, which may limit the extent of fully protected MPAs.

More generally, whilst we should be cautious extending the fisheries—agriculture analogy too far (fishing, remember, still largely targets wild, and often highly mobile organisms), I think it does provide some useful context. Ray Hilborn, a fisheries ecologist who also happens to be a farmer, has commented on this before: how farmers are praised for bringing the landscape under the plough in order to produce food, whereas fishermen are castigated for doing similar (often in farm more hazardous circumstances). Let’s just remember that (to use Oxfam’s terminology) the social foundation of access to an adequate, healthy food supply is of equal importance to the environmental ceiling of preserving biodiversity. If we get marine management right, we should be able to do both. I’m not convinced that starting a fight with some of the most important and knowledgeable marine stakeholders is the best way to achieve this.

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Seafish: The Fish Fight Charter is simplistic, indiscriminate and lacking in scientific evidence.

Seafish has today published a ten point response (below) to the Fish Fight Charter, which it describes as "simplistic, indiscriminate and lacking in scientific evidence in many areas." 




Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall's Fish Fight campaign, which is urging people to march on Parliament and demand the implementation of 127 Marine Protected Areas (MPAs) in UK coastal waters is, in Seafish's view, in danger of undermining and undervaluing years of environmental improvements, unless it stops its vilification of the UK fishing industry.

Paul Williams, CEO of Seafish, said: "The Fish Fight Charter is simplistic, indiscriminate and lacking in scientific evidence in many areas. The inconvenient truth to campaigns such as Fish Fight is that fishermen's knowledge has shown how the boundaries of a number of proposed MPAs, and the location of features within them, are wrong. So you need fishermen on board in order to achieve the environmental, social and economic improvements that everyone is striving for, and the science must be in place before you designate MPAs. Going down the 'evidence-lite' route, as this Fish Fight campaign does, is likely to achieve very little and the campaign will simply alienate the fishing industry - a sector that is vital to leading environmental improvements in our seas.

"Hugh's Fish Fight has lost sight of the fact that 31 proposed MPAs have been approved, out of the original 127 proposed, for a reason. That reason was that the Government's Scientific Advisory Panel found that the review of the scientific basis for the additional areas - what was being protected, why it was important, what would be the benefit - simply wasn't adequate. To put pressure on the industry and Government for more at this stage is therefore irresponsible and opportunistic as it is our understanding that more MPAs will eventually be considered anyway once proper scientific evidence for them has been gathered."

Seafish's response tackles many of the assumptions made in the Fish Fight Charter and also questions why the celebrity chef is raising these issues now when industry and environmental groups have been working with Government for years to improve the vibrancy and productivity of the marine environment. Some of the key points raised hinge on the assumption that all mobile gear destroys the sea-floor. The fact is that the right mobile gear used in the right place and at the appropriate intensity does not destroy the seafloor.

There is also the false assumption that all MPAs enhance fishing communities. Fundamentally, mobile gear fleets are important to many economically fragile coastal fishing communities. Another false assumption that the campaign operates on is that MPAs bring unalloyed environmental benefit. On the contrary, displacing fishing activity from MPAs could negate the ecological benefits afforded by an MPA network.

There are some areas where Seafish does agree with the Charter such as the importance of establishing MPAs in order to protect the environment and enable sustainability. This is already being done in many areas and has created vibrant and productive seas around the UK. The difference of opinion is how this is achieved and also in how the campaign has chosen to illustrate the need for action.

More Twitter talk - there's a real need for dialogue from the guys at HFF!

From Colin Leask aboard the Antarctic from Shetland.




Hugh's Fish Fight:

Heres a photo Hugh to show you what we endure to get fresh MSC sustainable fish to your colleagues' restaurants. Hugh, you always push the saying "Dont Ignore The People", well you should listen to us fishermen and authorities before broadcasting dangerous lies to the public, which could in turn destroy Fishing communities, its not a game Hugh, it's real people's lives your playing with...........


Looking over the stern of the Antarctic 

James Anderson @jameslk57 @jamieoliver what do you think of the massive increase in cod stocks. Remember your simplistic misleading graph on HFF. Make amends time now

James Anderson @jameslk57 More anti fishing propaganda from HFF- "as fish stocks continue to decline". Cod stocks doubled in last 5 yrs, N sea stocks rising. Fact! 1h

James Anderson @jameslk57 @GeorgeMonbiot .. Put them back into sea. Reduce, debate alter gear etc, but a ban is ridiculous. Ban nuke waste and see if it disappears. 1h

James Anderson @jameslk57 @GeorgeMonbiot who said "you can't wish waste away"? This is what HFF does with discards! Something has to be done with them and best ... 1h

william grafton @fishywillie Terrible news of one of the crew from the Achieve passing away in hospital last night,tragic. Thoughts are with them and family today. Retweeted by James Anderson 1h

James Anderson @jameslk57 @GeorgeMonbiot @seafishuk How should we not be interested in humanity? Unbelievable vilification fro some. We feed "humanity". 1h

James Anderson @jameslk57 @GeorgeMonbiot @seafishuk why would industry not want long term conservation?I have 3 sons coming behind me. Praise us for good management! 1h

James Anderson @jameslk57 @GeorgeMonbiot Seafish trying to put some balance back into debate. No chance of that from HFF. Check local NTZ's pic.twitter.com/Xo3ZPvTFEb

2h

James Anderson @jameslk57 @GeorgeMonbiot You should base your opinion of the industry on more than HFF. Now more fish than ever, reward for industry led conservation 2h

James Anderson @jameslk57 @GeorgeMonbiot if the stocks are increasing (cod stock doubled in last 5 yrs, haddock, saithe, whiting all rising) do we need to change? 20h

Seafish @seafishuk Our view of @hughsfishfight Charter ‘simplistic, indiscriminate and scientifically illiterate’; read our analysis seafish.org/about-seafish/… Retweeted by James Anderson 13h

Seafish @seafishuk @GeorgeMonbiot Even a cursory glance at our statements would see we are for MPA's, but science based not celebrity led #fishfact #fishfight Retweeted by James Anderson 5h

Yan Giron @PecheFraiche @JMacL the original is here trawlingfortruth.blogspot.fr/2013/02/fal-st… with some hints at the end Retweeted by James Anderson 2d

Chris Crosby @Chris4128 @chazbruce69 Scallop dredging disturbance on sea bed is relatively minor compaired 2 all the NATURAL disturbance youtube.com/watch?v=sJpMPP…

Retweeted by James Anderson 9d

Blueshell Mussels @BlueshellMussel Wow wow another beauty 160grammes!!! Better than fillet steak yfrog.com/h6z3eekyj

Retweeted by James Anderson 4d

James Anderson @jameslk57 @ValFrankiesFish no probs val. 4d

James Anderson @jameslk57 @Lord_Sugar @hughsfishfight urge you to read this tiny.cc/jptjsw Theres a lot more to it, lets work with, not against our fishermen” 4d

James Anderson @jameslk57 @Lord_Sugar hard working small businesses being targeted unfairly by @hughsfishfight. Please follow @Realfishfight and help get truth out. 6d

Valency Boscastle @Boscastle_Dee “@MitchTonks: Watched @hughsfishfight ? Read this tiny.cc/jptjsw Always 2 sides to a story>> work with, not against our fishermen” Retweeted by James Anderson 6d

MitchTonks @MitchTonks Watched @hughsfishfight ? I urge you to read this tiny.cc/jptjsw Theres a lot more to it, lets work with, not against our fishermen

Results from Monday's Fisheries Council vote in Brussels


Reform of the common fisheries policy 

The Council is expected to adopt a second general approach on the proposal for a regulation on the common fisheries policy (CFP) (12514/11) replacing the basic provisions of the CFP as part of the CFP reform "package": 

A general approach constitutes a political agreement in the Council on a proposal for a regulation.  The agreement sought on the CFP basic provisions will follow up on the first general approach agreed by the Council in June 2012 (11322/12), which was not fully conclusive with respect to the following parts of the proposal: 

• implementation of the discards ban and the possibility of by-catch quotas;• responsibilities for implementing environmental obligations that impact on fishing activities; • definitions, delegated acts to be adopted by the Commission and recitals. 

The European Parliament voted on its position at first reading on 6 February 2013.

The proposal's general objective is to ensure fisheries and aquaculture activities that provide longterm sustainable environmental, economic and social conditions, and contribute to the availability of food supplies.

 New elements concern in particular: 

• a landing obligation, • maximum sustainable yield (MSY) as a compulsory reference for fisheries management, • regionalised decision-making, • individually transferable fishing quotas, • EU measures accompanying member state obligations under environmental legislation.

Thursday, 21 February 2013

Twitter exchanges between Scottish fishermen and Jame Oliver and others

Buy from local markets and stop sourcing fish from around the globe:

Here's a lively exchange of tweets traded this evening:


@jamieoliver UK fishermen are doing more to conserve the stocks then Hugh. Ask the scientists. Stocks are plentiful
Retweeted by Budding Rose PD418

Even my fish scientist boyfriend isn't impressed with HF-W!! Says it looks like he's got his own agenda & everyone else is wrong. #fishfight
Retweeted by Budding Rose PD418

@jamieoliver have heard about conservation credits ..??

@jamieoliver please come to Peterhead sometime we have great news for about the recovering stocks in the North Sea

@jamieoliver never 1 good word in his programme about some the things we have done to help recover !!

@jamieoliver your Aberdeen restaurant is 45 minutes from the UKs biggest fishmarket how much fish do use from there ?


@buddingrose418 why don't you go and find out fella

@buddingrose418 u cant tell every story in 48 mins im sure your doing great things! as u know its not people like you that are the problem

@buddingrose418 i sell all sustainable fish and i have a team on it all the time as its a very complex issue and i support and buy MSC



@jamieoliver why do you not support the local fishing industry in Aberdeen and sell msc haddock

@GeorgeMonbiot we should shut you down ..the likes you cost people their job with your lies !!

@GeorgeMonbiot that's absolutely rubbish what the conservation credit scheme .. I suppose you've never heard of it !

@GeorgeMonbiot massive areas around our coastline are never fished ..do fish flourish in these areas no .. Mpa have no benefit to fish!

@GeorgeMonbiot no wonder the fishing industry is fighting back you tell so much lies !!

@GeorgeMonbiot what about the hake we now see in the North Sea never 1 mention in the media !!

@GeorgeMonbiot never seen so much fish in the North Sea never a word in the media about it !!

@GeorgeMonbiot never 1 good word about the conservation work my industry does !

@RichardsonsFWD ha can l get that in writing please!!

@RichardsonsFWD just away a few days fishing yet !

Nice haul of haddocks just now probably about 7 ton

@seafishuk we are proud tonsupport @Realfishfight , its all about helping others and looking at "WE" instead of "ME"

Fish Fight round 2 - seconds out

How some people prepared for round two........




Been to stornaway today for a yoga lesson,bought some herbal tea and josticks and am settling down to wtch #fishfight in a calm relaxd state

sadly all that preparation didn't seem to work...

Oh balls, I'm losing it with just the first 30secs. Aaaarrrrgggh #hughsfishfight


Note to admins,think we should maybe sign our name to our posts, mainly so we get to know each other more, thanks chaz

Boat not moving super imposed photo, is this a trick ? pic.twitter.com/9oXkYYUWM8

MT @Wildlife_Jason "I got krills & they're not multiplying, we'd better shape up!" (Sung to a classic Grease song!) #fishfight :)

No krill on our menu tonight but could penguins take to our prawn head crispies ? #fishfight


Fascinating to see how krill are caught. Good work KEO films. #fishfight

I'm looking for investors my boat a bit small If Hugh sells this right we should have a fleet of 10 by end the year #eatkrill

80% of that #krill ends up in petfood or animal feed. How many consumers know that? #fishfight

Skippers declare war on TV chef - Business - Whitby Gazette: whitbygazette.co.uk/news/business/…

@Realfishfight better than that bet they paid for his trip as he is there hero #nuggets

we buy 100% shields fish and export 100% try and get skinned whiting fillets into supermarket

Using the phrase " imagine if,,," to scaremonger!!. I like to "Imagine if" I won the Lottery!! But hey! @FishFight

1000 should get the market going #eatmorekrill pic.twitter.com/AVGIekGrHo

@butterflyfillet yes that's the differance we couldn't supply the country without some levels of imports,but flooding our market is to much

We've been working with our friends @MRC_marine to call for better protection in South Georgia seas bit.ly/Zv0BvT #fishfight #MPAs

Want to know more about #krill & why we are worried? Check out our scientific report greenpeace.org/international/… #fishfight

@butterflyfillet good luck with that,cuz we have plenty quota up here for whiting,but only got £19 per 45k box last week,,need more markets



@Tom1Seaman buy british,buy local with less food miles.how sustainable can fish be thats caught in the artic sent to China procesed then EU?

Most of the world's albatross species endangered due to longline fishing hooks - but solveable by changing gear #fishfight

Find out more about Antarctic krill at bit.ly/151tmj1 #fishfight

@DevonScallops totally agree, see previous tweet. Need a spokesperson to get on air and state real facts.

Odd to see scientists resistant to backing marine protection. Not a good look #fishfight Marine protection is small change to govt really..


Its a shame when conservationists are put in a position where they have to lie for the sake of funding. #fishfight #ironic

£3 million a year! He could almost pay for that himself!! #fishfight

What about our seas closer to home? 127 Marine Conservation Zones are vital. Join our march on Monday bit.ly/UA55NI #fishfight

Join Hugh's march to Westminster on Monday and send the government a powerful message about MPAs around the UK. fishfight.net

"@GeorgeMonbiot: How @seafishuk profited from black landings: guardian.co.uk/environment/20… …" The debate is hotting up..

I back a marine protected area around South Georgia. Well done Hugh. UK role obvious. What can the EU do? #fishfight

Check out what CE&5 other NGOs in the #MarineReservesCoalition have been doing to get better protection in S.Georgia: ow.ly/hVY0E

Bioglan Red Krill Oil is fully sustainable as certified by the @MSCintheUK #krill #fishfight @AkerBioMarine

'A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on it's shoes' #lost #shoe #Schier pic.twitter.com/i9BdtX7ato

@Tom1Seaman it's sad that we have a fantastic product at our door step,sadly not being utilised as it should be,,our stocks are growing

What's a seafood-lover to do?bit.ly/Xs33gH amongst other frauds, nearly three-quarters of the sushi was mislabeled.#traceability

1/2 Fisheries Minister Richard Benyon says Govt is starting slow with marine conservation zones to get them right. He has a point.



Even my fish scientist boyfriend isn't impressed with HF-W!! Says it looks like he's got his own agenda & everyone else is wrong. #fishfight



on a different tack altogether but trending on Twitter!

Everyone is abuzz about seafood fraud today! Our take on the seafood bait & switch: ow.ly/hVkPN RT @Oceanwire RT @Fishbiology



@hughsfishfight so after geting out on the boats and supporting the fishermen yous are doing everything to ruin there livelihoods #fishfight

@wwf_uk So are you going to stop Norwegian colleagues taking cash from company that promotes krill fishery in Southern Ocean? #fishfight

@catfish100plus @hughsfishfight I'm looking forward to meeting Hugh on Monday for an interview... #fishfight

...eco-system in "protected" marine environments. And money and politics get in the way of everything. #FishFight

then theree was the raving Aussie!...
@hughsfishfight - Hugh for PM!! #fishfight



































A little fresh in the Bay today - Ivan Ellen tests the water




Terns picking tidbits from the shore break...



as the strong southerly seas pound the beach off Newlyn Green...


out with Ivan Ellen to give the motors a run...


and into the surf...


time to head for the gaps...




and make for...


calmer waters...



take on a few hundred gallons of fuel...


and motor back to her berth on the pontoons...



looks like gaf tape has come in useful aboard the baby William Ste....oh, a big sea has blasted off her name plate...




Sparkling Line lands to a lorry



while another makes a tight turn in the lorry park...


long as Pew et al aren't involved!!!!...


happy in his work, and there's still plenty to do on the Sapphire II...


like grinding out...


and heating up...


what's the collective noun for twin riggers?...